Bigfoot News: Georgia Hoax Round 2, DNA Doubts and Minnesota Encounter

....it's August 15th and Round 2 of Georgia Bigfoot Hoax BS begins:

Click for video - PART 1 OF 10 OF WHAT REALLY WENT DOWN IN MAY OF 2008 BIGFOOT NOT A HOAX

Dyer had 3 years to make up this story. Frankly, he'd been better off writing a book. So, where did this other joker come from (Ward)? We never saw / heard 'hide nor hair' from this guy throughout the entire debacle in 2008...but now he's suddenly part of the story? I also like the US flag in the background effect...that's always a sign that 'the good ole' boys' are serious and telling the truth. BTW, I have been blocked from commenting on any of Dyer's videos.

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Lisa A. Shiel has recently posted her take on Bigfoot DNA and that it will not provide rock-solid proof of Bigfoot's existence:

There’s been a lot of talk recently about Bigfoot and DNA. I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve read someone say or had someone tell me that DNA will prove the existence of Bigfoot as a real, biological animal. All we need is a really, really, really good sample and an open-minded scientist to perform the testing. DNA has become the holy grail of Bigfoot research, but it’s based on a fallacy. DNA by itself will never prove Bigfoot exists.

Why not? To name and describe a new species, scientists require a physical sample known as a type specimen or holotype. A holotype is a single individual that represents an entire species. Although a single specimen may represent the entire species, multiple specimens are preferable for demonstrating that a new species has indeed been found. A DNA sample by itself proves nothing, as far as defining a new species. Comparing the new sample to existing DNA samples on file will show, at best, that the new sample does not correspond with any known species. All you will have proven is that scientists can’t identify what type of creature the DNA came from.

This does not mean the DNA came from a new species.

The sample could’ve been contaminated, a possibility that plagues Bigfoot research because purported DNA samples from Bigfoot have likely not been collected with an eye to preventing contamination. Even scientists have problems with contamination. A 2008 article in Archaeology magazine discussed the problem of contamination in collecting DNA samples from archaeological sites. The author stated that “excavators would have to wear what amount to space suits” in order to eliminate contamination. DNA samples collected in the wild may have been exposed to the elements for an undetermined time. Even if they were supposedly collected straight from the source — namely, a Bigfoot — the Bigfoot researcher may have inadvertently contaminated the sample simply by collecting it. Are researchers wearing space suits, or even sterile gloves?

Let’s assume said sample was collected in a perfectly sterile manner, with zero chance of contamination. The DNA test comes back as an unknown animal or, at best, an unknown primate. This has not proven Bigfoot exists. It has not even proven the researcher has discovered a new species. The test has proven only that the specific DNA sample in question can’t be identified with anything currently known to science.

The confusion over Bigfoot and DNA is understandable. It’s easy to get confused reading news headlines announce new species discovered using DNA. We have to dig a little deeper, sometimes just by bothering to carefully read the entire article and other times by searching out the original scientific paper, to discover the truth. New species “discovered” through DNA analysis alone are actually cryptic species, creatures that are physiologically identical to another species, akin to identical twins in our own species. By studying the DNA of the species in question, scientists have discovered genetic differences that led them to conclude one twin is different enough from the other to be considered a new species. The new species was, in essence, hiding within another species. Scientists already had specimens of the new species, though they didn’t realize it.

DNA alone won’t prove Bigfoot exists. If we want scientists to accept Bigfoot’s existence, we must present them with physical specimens, not DNA. It’s time we accept this fact and move on. - jacobsvillebooks

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"Finding Bigfoot' filming in Minnesota

I’ve never seen Bigfoot, but I’ve heard him. I swear. Apparently I’m not the only one in our area that has a Bigfoot story to share. The TV show “Finding Bigfoot” is currently shooting footage and accounts in the Northland. I’ve done some research and I’ve found some stories in our own backyard. I’ll share them with you, along with my own, after the jump.This is a relatively recent story when I heard Bigfoot. It could be another animal, but I have no idea what animal it would be. That’s what makes it so mysterious.

My wife and I were up at our family’s hunting shack in Northern MN near Cook, MN. It was probably around 10PM when I went to the edge of the woods because “nature was calling.” It was pitch black as it was a rainy kind of night and I heard a weird shrieking noise. It wasn’t a high shriek, or a low shriek, but like a combination. Then I heard it crash off into the woods.

It scared the hell out of me! It happened again later that night, several hours later, and again the next night. I’ve ruled out it being a bear, a buck grunting, or an owl. I guess it’s a mystery.

There are some more accounts, including footprints found near Virginia MN. There also appears to be several sightings in Itasca County and even one near Brimson, MN. - kkcb

Click for video - Minnesota Bigfoot Sighting Near St. Croix River

Comments with video: A Minnesota farmer and his wife were walking in the woods north of Stillwater one July night, when they saw a strange animal, according to a new YouTube video. The couple thought they'd come upon a deer, but heard a "low odd sounding grunt," and decided to get closer and see what it was.

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'Finding Bigfoot': Muddy Footprints and Candy Bars

“From deep inside the North Carolina Uhwarrie National Forest comes one of the most convincing pieces of Bigfoot footage from the past 40 years. The team of BFRO investigators use decades worth of experiences to determine if this footage is the real deal.” Well, that's how the episode Finding Bigfoot: “Caught on Tape” was promoted by Animal Planet. The following is a local article about the muddy footprints...followed by links of previous posts and comments, including the thermal video/images and using candy bars as Bigfoot bait.

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At first, Bernadette and Leonard Braley didn’t pay much attention to the spots of mud on the road about 50 feet from their home on Quartz Court in Gibsonville last October.

But then the Braleys began looking at the mud more closely and thought they looked a lot like footprints. Leonard grabbed the measuring tape and Bernadette a camera. They took photos of what they thought were 16-inch muddy footprints and then forgot about them for a few months.

This past January, Bernadette began thinking about the photos again while she was going through shows on her digital video recorder. One was news footage of man who encountered Bigfoot trying to attack his dog.

It got Bernadette thinking. She did a quick Internet search and found Bigfoot Lunch Club, a group that follows Bigfoot sightings, and there is one in North Carolina. Bernadette emailed her muddy footprint photos to the club. In February, the Braleys were invited to Troy to talk with a group from the Animal Planet television network that was doing some filming for a six-part series called “Finding Bigfoot” that started airing this month.

The Braleys will be featured in an hour-long “Finding Bigfoot” episode about Sasquatch sightings in North Carolina. It airs at 10 p.m. Sunday on Animal Planet, which can be found at Channel 63 on Time-Warner Cable in Alamance County.

“When Animal Planet got there, they went crazy when they saw the pictures,” Bernadette Braley said. “They wanted to come to our house and do filming for their series.”

A four-person team from the Bigfoot Field Researchers Organization — BFRO — as well as a producer, cameraman and several others spent a day with the Braleys in March, asking questions, filming and trying to recreate the footprints.

“Their first question was do you live near power lines,” Bernadette Braley said.

Power lines run on the opposite side of their house. The second question was about the deer population. The Braleys’ property backs up to woods and there are a lot of deer. At the time the footprints were found, there was a lot of new construction going on in the cul-de-sac and plenty of mud in the area.

“They have concluded that Bigfoot sightings are around power lines because they like to run along the power lines and also deer. They like to eat deer or run with deer,” Bernadette Braley said.

The footprints were about 12 feet apart.

“They did some tests,” she said. “They put mud on the bottom of their shoes. They had a fellow running in the area. He jumped.”

The test subject was 6 feet tall and he left footprints that were about 6 feet apart.

“They estimated it was probably a lot taller and a lot heavier and running on the ball of its foot,” Bernadette Braley said.

The four-person team of researchers includes Bobo, a commercial fisherman, Cliff, a professional educator, Matt, the president of BFRO and Ranae, a skeptical scientist. They all have varying experiences with Bigfoot and different beliefs about the existence of the creature, according to an Animal Planet release.

“What binds them together, however, is their longing to understand the creature, passion for proving its existence and willingness to stop at nothing to finally track down Bigfoot,” the release states.

The Braleys enjoyed the experience with the Animal Planet group. Bernadette made the whole crowd chili. The researchers left behind a motion-sensitive night-vision camera that they set up in the woods.

The Braleys have a lot of photos of deer and rabbits and leaves falling, but they still haven’t captured Bigfoot on film.

Leonard Braley was always a believer that Sasquatch existed. Bernadette said she was always skeptical. After doing a lot of Internet research, talking to people and interacting with the folks from Animal Planet, she’s starting to be a believer herself.

“I’m leaning in the direction that there’s got to be a Bigfoot out there,” she said. “There is just too many sightings for it to be people’s imagination or hoaxes.”

The Braleys haven’t actually seen Bigfoot and never reported anything to authorities last year. Bernadette suspects that whatever made the muddy footprints is long gone, but she holds out hope.

“I, personally, would like to see it,” she said. “I would love to actually take a picture of it.” - thetimesnews

NOTE: here is a link to the original articles and information - The Uwharrie Bigfoot Rundown. You may want to read some of the comments about this 'Finding Bigfoot' episode at Cryptomundo.com - What Do You Think Of Finding Bigfoot: “Caught on Tape”. Anyway, if you watched the episode, tell me what you thought of it...Lon

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Ominus Start For Animal Planet's 'Finding Bigfoot'

Animal Planet throws their hat into the Bigfoot hunting ring with a new six-part series beginning Sunday, June 5th, at 10/9 Central called "Finding Bigfoot". Of course, they won't FIND Bigfoot because we would have heard something by now. I watched the sneak preview Monday night on Animal Planet. There were a few interesting pieces of evidence though the law enforcement dashcam episode has already been called a hoax. As well, some of the personal claims made by Matt Moneymaker were questionable. Overall, this isn't a good start for the newest TV presentation about finding Bigfoot. The following is an article published back in January 2011:

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Bigfoot ‘sighting’ lures TV network

Although it's not writ in stone, Animal Planet is making plans to visit Lumpkin and Union counties. They are stalking the legend of Bigfoot.

The Discovery Channel, which produces Animal Planet, called local resident Mary Scott, requesting an interview with her. Scott, as well as a Lumpkin County Sheriff's Office deputy with whom she was riding during a Citizens Law Enforcement Academy ride-along, reportedly saw a Bigfoot about a year-and-a-half ago and captured it on the dashboard cam.

Scott said they were out in the Frogtown area when the sighting occurred.

“We were going about 55 mph on a curvy road. It was really late-after midnight, I think. We hadn't passed any other cars, and this thing came out of nowhere,” Scott says. “The officer hit the brakes and we both jumped out. We looked on both sides of the road but didn't see anything, and we looked at each other kind-of like, ‘You saw that, didn't you? I saw that.'”

Realizing the event had been recorded by the patrol car's dash cam, Scott and the officer returned to the Sheriff's Office where they viewed the happening on a larger screen.

“We were both just shocked,” Scott says. “It was really tall, and it really looked like the pictures you've seen of Bigfoot.”

The film found it's way onto the Internet, and that's how the Discovery Channel tracked Scott down, she says.

“I told them it all happened in seconds. It just came and went,” she says.

The TV representative told Scott they are planning to visit the area in February and plan to camp out in the area where she and the deputy made the sighting.

They may change their minds, however, when they learn that Sheriff Stacy Jarrard claims to have proven the sighting to be a hoax. Jarrard said he went out the next day to question homeowners in the area. At the first house he stopped at, he says, there were two young men, students at North Georgia College & State University, who were “acting really nervous. You could see their hearts were beating really fast,” he says.

The two did not admit to the prank right away, but later in the week they copped to one of them donning a gorilla suit and running across the road in front of vehicles on the night in question. Jarrard says he even has a photograph of the two boys with the gorilla suit.

If Animal Planet does decide to not to visit Lumpkin, they will probably still most likely visit the North Georgia area.

“They sent us a letter requesting to film at Track Rock in Union County,” said John Campbell with the National Forest Ranger Station in Blairesville. “The area is an archeological site, and is purported to have the footprint on Bigfoot.” - thedahloneganugget


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NOTE: you can find more information at Finding Bigfoot: The Evidence for Bigfoot: Animal Planet and Finding Bigfoot

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As expected, Matt Moneymaker responds to criticism of 'Finding Bigfoot' (unedited):

The comments by Jarrard were not true, as we discovered while we were there. He wouldn’t take questions from us when we tried to nail down his story.

No one from the sheriff’s department went out to speak with any of the neighbors after the incident. We spoke with the neighbors though when we were shooting the episode. There was never any college students living in the area, and there was no photo of college kids with a gorilla costume. Jarrard story sounded unlikely from the beginning, and apparently it didn’t happen.

None of the other sheriffs had heard about this story that Jarrard told to a reporter. It seems he came up with the story to quel any fear that local people might have about a monster in the woods, and to prevent hunters from going to look for one.

There was no other show that aired the dashcam footage. Finding Bigfoot was the first program to air the footage. Lotsa false nonsense coming up on this site today, but anonymous people claiming things they kinda sorta recall but can’t quite put their finger on it.

Moneymaker also replies to the “wood knock” and “call blasting” claims of who did it first:

That’s pretty weak...a book published in 1993 about a famous indian story teller. It doesn’t count. I had already been talking about that behavior for a year or more on the Internet (and debating with all the people who were saying I was crazy to suggest that) while that book was being assembled. I had been saying that bigfoots use knocks to locate eachother prior to 92, but all you have is the claim by a famous “story teller” in a 1993 book...that he knew they did that long ago. It doesn’t count.

Bill Dranginis is notorious for not telling the truth, and he was kicked out of the BFRO almost 15 years ago for exactly that reason. If he says he recalls an article describing someone else doing call-blasting before I did it...then he needs to produce that article. I kinda doubt it exists. Dranginis would not hesitate to make up something like that. Also, there were no recordings of sasquatches available in the 1980’s that could be used for that purpose. I got the first fairly clean recording that could that be used for sound blasting, and I got it in 1993.

Let’s see Titmus’ writings saying he did wood knocks back and forth with a sasquatch in BC...not just someone’s “recollection” of him talking about that.

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